Shamelessly Attacking the Memory of Norway Terror Victims

by Sheila Musaji

Here is the first article we published on this topic in July of 2011:

Glenn Beck and Pamela Geller Shamelessly Attack Memory of Norway Terror Victims, by Sheila Musaji

Pamela Geller, in a screed titled Takeaway ... The Trash complaining about a radio program allowing Wajahat Ali to speak and giving him more time than she was given once again lost sight of her message.

During the radio program Geller was upset about, she had said that (paraphrased) Breivik killed people, and that’s what we should be talking about, we should be mourning the victims.  She expressed indignation that she had become any part of the story.

In Geller’s article, which is a baseless ad hominem attack on Wajahat Ali, she forgets for a moment her feigned concern about the victims when she says Anders Behring Breivik was anti-government. He was a fascist. He attacked government buildings and a government indoctrination center, but let’s not let the facts get in the way of leftwing proselytizing for islam.

The bomb attack was at a government building, but the victims were real human beings.  The shooting attack at the youth camp killed young people, teenagers.  Is it even possible to be so hard hearted that this gathering of young people interested in politics could be considered a “government indoctrination center”?

She is expressing the same sort of heartless sentiment as Glenn Beck who compared the victims at the youth camp in Norway to the Hitler Youth.  “There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth, or whatever.  I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing.”

Rather than apologizing for his comment, Beck made it worse and likened the Obama administration to the Third Reich. 

Using Nazi and Fascist analogies against anyone they disagree with is another tactic Beck and Geller share.

UPDATE 7/31/2011

It is beyond belief that any human being could be so blinded by hatred that they might even consider publishing the article that Pamela Geller just put online. 

The title is Summer Camp? Antisemitic Indoctrination Training Center.  Geller begins by giving this quote from one of the children who survived from an ABC news article:  “Some of my friends tried to stop him by talking to him. Many people thought that it was a test ... comparing it to how it is to live in Gaza.” Eyewitness statement the day of the shooting.”

And, in Geller’s mind this statement that seems to suggest the idea that some of the children at the youth camp might have thought the Palestinians in Gaza might be suffering hardships (or that the activities at the camp might have included pro-Palestinian or even anti-Israeli government policies activities) becomes an opportunity to add even more insult to injury. 

Geller explains her view of the meaning of this statement:

The day of the Norway shooting, I was blindsided by one of the survivor’s statements to the press immediately after the shooting (see above). It was so outside the box, I thought it was the kneejerk response of an anti-semite in shock. I didn’t blog on it because I thought it anecdotal, badly anecdotal. But the more that is revealed about that youth indoctrination center, the more grotesque the whole story becomes. Of course, the genocidal leftists will twist what I write here; I am not condoning the slaughter in Norway or anywhere. I abhor violence (except in regard to self defense). But the jihad-loving media never told us what antisemitic war games they were playing on that island. Utoya Island is a Communist/Socialist campground, and they clearly had a pro-Islamic agenda.

Only the malevolent media could use the euphemism summer camp and get away with it.

The slaughter was horrific. What these kids were being taught and instructed to do was a different kind of grotesque. There is no justification for Breivik’s actions whatsoever. There is also no justification for Norway’s antisemitism and demonization of Israel.  NOTE:  see Geller’s original article for included links

She then posts the text of an article by someone called The Anti Mullah full of suggestions of an equivalence between being pro-Palestinian or opposed to the wall or to some Israeli policies and being anti-Semitic.  He even says “Glen Beck was not far off when he compared it to the Hitlerjungend or Young Pioneers.”  This article also includes a photo from the youth camp with the caption underneath “Note the faces which are more Middle Eastern or mixed than pure Norwegian”.  An obviously racist comment that she re-posts.

Geller is committed to the idea that any criticism of Israel is equivalent to anti-Semitism.  I absolutely reject this idea.

That being said, I read and re-read this statement by Geller, and cannot even begin to understand what “point” she is trying to make.  Is it that this provides a logical explanation for why they were targeted?  Is it that the victims and their families don’t deserve any sympathy because they might disagree with her political beliefs?  There is no justification for what happened, but what?  This shows a total lack of any compassion or even human decency. 

This Anti Mullah’s article suddenly segues from an attack on the youth camp to a discussion of the nutjob Anjem Choudary and his latest insanity in London as if that is representative of Islam and Muslims.  See Anjem Choudary part of the Muslim Lunatic Fringe for a discussion of how mainstream Muslims view Chaudary and his ilk.

The comments at the bottom of this article cover a wide range of opinions.  One comment from a Norwegian brought me to tears, and gave me hope that hatred can truly be overcome by love:

Vi Glemmer Aldri said…
There is a great difference between accepting people and their religion, and accepting acts of states, in particular states that are occupying foreing land, and blocking sources of food, healthcare and ordinary peoples travels ( or as it is, attempts to travel..) to get to work and earn a livelyhood for their families.

It is therefore quite possible to embrace jews and their religion and at the same time being against the state of Israels blokade of Gaza, and working for the upheaval of the blokade. Just as also Israelis work against the blokade, from their standpoint not accepting a wrong be done just because they benefit from it.

Namecalling of any kind, from any group, will not contribute to solve anything. One must be able to discuss political issues, whatever your standing, without calling people this or that. The youthorganization AUF is not either pro- islamistic or anti-jewish. AUF s political goals are freedom and equal opportunities for all. No matter your race, religion or who your father knows. In fact, AUF has on several summercamps and other gatherings invited BOTH palestinian and israeli youth. AUF has also at other times had visits from youth from other corners of the world, often states struggling towards democracy - especially Eastern Europe before the wall - the other one - fell. AUF is not very pro-walls, thats true. It has been very rewarding for all to have the opportunity to meet on common ground, play football, swim, dance - or just talk around the campfire between youth - the youth that will make our future.

Namecalling and judging groups of people without trying to get to know them or understand them is what Breivik was a representative for, in the same way as all extremists - wherever they come from, whether they be left- or rightwing, jew, muslim, hindu. Extremists are afraid, very afraid for the unknown - and hence also often a bit paranoid.

I’m a Norwegian lawyer, once member of AUF for the very same reason I decided to pursue law; everyone deserves a fair chance. I know that just because in Norway you get free healthcare for all and free education at all levels, in some parts of the world that is considered ” communist”. Often from countries that at some occasions have said to our prime minister or government officials; ” how can you accept that the newspapers write that about you. Make them stop!” That’s not how a democracy works….I’ve spent several camps on Utøya many years ago. Youth who had and have hopes and dreams for the future. AUF have never been indoctrinated. On the contrary, the mother party has both accepted and encouraged that AUF is an independant organization with its own opinions - often referred to as ” the salt of the party”. Beck isnt really able to insult anyone anymore. His own summercamp for his market values is, as I understand it, for kids 6-12 years old. You may call that indoctrination. Not youth aged 15-25, themselves in positions not only in their own organizations, but also elected by the people and “in office” in municipalities and government. Thats democracy. Even if you don’t agree with them.

I have met many and taken part in memorial services the last week. People from all of society of Norway are grieving, lefties, righties,in churches, temples and mosques, workplaces and prisons people are saddened and tearyeyed. But I still havent met anyone angry, crying out for more walls, more security, stricter laws. Everyone is unanymous: WE WON’T BE SILENCED BY TERROR. We will have a MORE open society, we will discuss political issues more openly. We will not press these extremist opinions under ground, we WILL listen to their arguments, and argue them asunder. We will NOT pass laws that will take away the democratic country we live in, killing the values we have in an attempt to save them. We will have MORE democracy, that is the only lasting way to peace. We will take back everyday life, take back Utøya and happy memories, we will stand up for the values of freedom, equal worth and togetherness.

One girl, member of AUF, said after the attack ” if one man can hate so much, imagine how much love we can have together”. Pamela, I disagree with you SO much, and I’m particularly uncomfortable with how you put labels on people. In my opinion, that is dangerous, and the exact problem ( well, one of them..) of the massmurderer. I think you should stop labelling, and - sorry to have to mention it, I think Israelis more than anyone should know how dangerous that is. BUT WE SHOULD ALL DISCUSS POLITICAL ISSUES. It’s OK TO DISAGREE. WE SHOULD ENCORAGE ALL TO SPEAK THEIR MIND. But if you want respect for your opinion, your religion, your point of view - then you have to respect others.

MORE OPENNESS. MORE DEMOCRACY. The massmurderer has already lost. He wanted to start a war. He just might have started peace.

Through the years I’ve been amazed how you can communicate also tough things to people. It’s how you say it that matters

UPDATE 8/1/2011

Don’t know what it might mean - but all of the comments are now not accesible on Geller’s article on her site?  It says that there are 192 comments, but none come up.

UPDATE 8/82011

I have just published Spencer and Geller’s “Defense”: Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing which discusses the Islamophobes frantic attempts to defend themselves, and counters each of their claims. 

UPDATE 5/20/2012

Breivik’s most recent statements during his trial have again raised this issue.  Barry Lando reports that

At his trial in Oslo, Norway, Anders Behring Breivik shocked onlookers yesterday when he announced he would “like to offer a large apology” to those innocent bystanders injured or killed in his bombing of an Oslo government building last July.

As for the other 69 people—mainly teenagers—who he gunned down in cold blood on the nearby island of Utoya—well, that was something else: They bore some of the fault themselves. 

Shockingly, similar views are echoed by Islamophobes in Europe and the U.S., some of whom, these days, are even considered a respectable part of the political right.

Those kids on the island, according to Breivik were “legitimate targets.” Their crime, as it were: attending a summer camp hosted by the youth wing of the ruling Labour party. Indeed, they were political activists, working for the “deconstruction of Norwegian society.” Their insidious weapon: “multiculturalism,” which is leading to a “Muslim invasion” of Norway.

Sound like the unhinged ravings of a madman. Where could Breivik have gotten the idea that he was part of a much larger worldwide organization?

In fact, he was—and is. And I thought I thought I’d written enough on this issue, but this is no time to forget that despicable as his views are, they are grounded in the spewings of a network of Islamophobes in Europe and the United States.

One of the most prominent and respectable being Pamela Geller, who runs a blog called Atlas Shrugs, is rabidly pro Israel, plays a prominent role in right wing Republican circles, and is a regular on Fox News.

Last August, a few weeks after Breivik’s shooting spree, Geller lashed out at critics who highlighted the role of her site as a cheering circle for the kind of racist garbage that Breivik spewed.  (Think Progress wrote an excellent piece on this last August.)

First, Geller made perfectly clear that she was “not condoning the slaughter in Norway or anywhere” and violently disapproved of the killings.

That said, Geller than performed a neat 180 degree turn, and delivered a political dissection of Breivik’s young victims—remarkably similar to Breivik’s mind-boggling justification yesterday in the Oslo Courthouse.

Geller—who has labeled Obama “President Jihad”—was aghast, she explained, because “the jihad loving media never told us what anti-Semitic war games they were playing on that island.”

Yes, the slaughter was horrific, she said. On the other hand… “what these kids were being taught to do was a different kind of grotesque.”

Indeed, the youngsters Breivik was targeting were far from innocent: they were “the future leaders of the party responsible for flooding Norway with Muslims who refuse to assimilate , who commit major violence against Norwegian natives including violent gang rapes, with impunity, and who live on the dole.”

Turns out however, as Geller views the world, that even worse than the crime of promoting multi-culturalism, those kids were also listening to speakers who actually criticized Israel. Norway’s Foreign Minister, for example, had told them that the Palestinians “must have their own state, the occupation must end and the wall must be demolished and it must happen now.” 

Further, wrote the outraged Geller, some of the games played at the camp dealt with breaking the Israel blockade of Gaza.

Knowing all that, said Geller, “Glen Beck[sic] was not far off when he compared it to the Hitlerjugend of Young Pioneers.”

She also posted a picture taken of the young campers on a sunny hillside just a few days before the massacre.

Under the picture was the caption: “Note the faces which are more Middle Eastern or mixed than pure Norwegian.”

Later, that caption was deleted. As Think Progress pointed out, it can still be found on an earlier screen shot.

Another article by Jeff Sparrow Dealing with the real Anders Breivik notes that Breivik’s views are widely shared

... This is an unconventional war. We are in a war, we are in a clash of civilisations. The thing I want to leave with you in closing is that we are the soldiers. The soldiers are not in uniform. There are no armies on the field. The armies on the field are there, they’re doing noble work but that’s only one small part. The main struggle is right here. And we are it. This is a battle for the soul of Australia, for the soul of Europe, for the soul of America, for the soul of the west. And its outcome is not at all decided, as dire as it may look, because we have not yet begun to fight. It is up to us.’

  The passage might have come, word-for-word, from Breivik’s testimony. But it didn’t.

It’s part of a recent speech by Robert Spencer, a luminary of the Islamophobic Right. Spencer runs the wildly popular Jihad Watch blog. He’s also, with Pamela Geller, the co-founder of Stop the Islamization of America, and an important ideologue in the loose network of bloggers, activists and political groups known as the ‘Counter Jihad’ movement.

In that milieu, as the anti-fascist group Hope Not Hate documents in an important new report, all of Breivik’s theses circulate. Islam poses an existential threat to Western civilisation; seemingly peaceable Muslims are surreptitiously engaged in ‘stealth jihad’; Muslim immigrants represent a demographic time bomb; that multiculturalists are tacitly supporting the Islamic enemy; that the universities and the media are dominated by ‘cultural Marxists’ seeking to legitimise sharia law: it’s all there.

Hope not Hate explains:

“The ‘Counter-Jihad’ movement is the new face of the political right in Europe. The old racial nationalism of fascists and racists are receding but in its place are right wing populist parties and movements which make Islam the issue and Muslims the target. It manifests itself in different ways, in different countries, but its underlying message is the same. Sometimes it is focused around the single issue of Islam, but in other situations it becomes interwoven with wider politics of immigration, culture, loss and identity.”

Naturally, the ideologues of counter jihad denounced Breivik’s murders.

But they never renounced his ideas. Instead, they asserted that the very extremity of his acts proved him insane, with that insanity differentiating his thesis about the necessity of war against the Islamic peril from their own articulation of precisely the same argument.

The liberal refusal to engage with Breivik’s politics works the same way: No normal person could murder kids like that. By definition, Breivik must not be normal – and, therefore, everything he says can be safely discounted.

But in Breivik’s testimony, he explained in detail just how his grim deeds become viable. Because he recognised that a mass killing would be psychologically difficult, he consciously set out to ‘de-emotionalise’ himself via meditation and other techniques.

‘You have to choose tactics and strategies to dehumanise … the enemy … those who I see as legitimate targets,’ he explained. 
There’s nothing crazy about that. The modern military does the same thing and for exactly the same reason – to enable ordinary people to kill.

Breivik, in other words, took Spencer’s rhetoric of war seriously. He duly set out to become a warrior, using a homemade version of the training by which recruits prepare for close-quarters combat in Iraq or Afghanistan.  That’s why it’s so dangerous to pretend he’s some psychological anomaly.  Over the last week, the trial has allowed Breivik to propagandise for an Islamophobic program that already enjoys considerable support.

Let’s quote Hope Not Hate again:

“In the United States, three states have already banned Sharia law from being practised. It is being debated by another twenty. In Switzerland, people voted for a ban on Minarets despite the fact that there were only four in the country. In France, politicians of the centre and right are trying to outbid each other in the Presidential elections to prove how hardline they are on Muslim practices and extremism. The fear of Islam is playing an increasingly important role in the political discourse in many countries.”

Psychoanalysing such ideas away doesn’t make them vanish. Instead, it discredits anti-racists, for the simple reason that those sympathetic to anti-Muslim bigotry can recognise, quite plainly, that there’s little to distinguish what Breivik says from the rhetoric of Geert Wilders or Daniel Pipes or Mark Steyn or other number of impeccably mainstream figures.

‘Breivik is no gifted writer,’ says a commenter on Spencer’s blog, ‘but what I’ve read of his manifesto his thinking is far from incoherent. His use of Wikipedia’s entry on The Frankfurt School was an eye-opener to me and well deserving of study to understand how Europe is undergoing cultural repudiation on such a suicidal scale.’

‘In other words,’ says another, ‘Anders Breivik should not be on trial — ISLAM should be on trial. And the verdict — GUILTY.’

In that discussion, we see the terrifying potential for Breivik to emerge as the John Brown of counter jihad: fanatical, excessive and violent, yet lauded as a hero willing to put principles into action.

After Hitler’s defeat, the invocation of the Holocaust helped marginalise would-be fuhrers for decades, as anti-racists said loudly, ‘We’ve seen your ideas before – and they left six million dead.’

The tragedy in Norway provides a similar opportunity to isolate the new crop of bigots and hatemongers. Those who mutter about civil war against multiculturalists and Muslims should be confronted, again and again, with Utoya, for it’s where their rhetoric leads.

It’s well past time to stop kidding ourselves that Breivik can be explained away via mental illness. The far Right is real and it’s growing. We urgently need a political response.

SEE ALSO:

Are you stupid enough to be a blogger for the Washington Post? Take the Norway test, Philip Weiss http://mondoweiss.net/2011/07/are-you-stupid-enough-to-be-a-blogger-for-the-washington-post-take-the-norway-test.html

Breivik as Herostratus, Rev. Frank Julian Gelli http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/breivik-as-herostratus

Breivik, Rightist Mass Murderer, ‘Atlas Shrugged’ Contributor, Richard Silverstein   http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/07/22/rightist-wreaks-terror-through-norway/

Anders Behring Breivik: profile of a mass murdererA right-wing fundamentalist with a hatred for Norway’s left, multiculturalism and Muslims, Peter Beaumont http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/anders-behring-breivik-norway-attacks

Anders Behring Breivik, a perfect product of the Axis of Islamophobia, Max Blumenthal http://maxblumenthal.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-a-perfect-product-of-the-axis-of-islamophobia/

Breivik Was Influenced By American Islamophobes Behind ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ Hysteria, Lee Fang http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/25/277631/breivik-influenced-by-american-islamophobes/

Anders Breivik’s Frightening Testimony, Patrick Glennon http://inthesetimes.com/ittlist/entry/13108/the_coldness_and_delusion_of_anders_breiviks_testimony/

Breivik’s Swamp: Was the Oslo killer radicalized by what he read online?, Toby Archer http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/07/25/breivik_s_swamp

Christian Jihad? Why We Should Worry About Right-Wing Terror Attacks Like Norway’s in the US, Frank Schaeffer http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/151751/christian_jihad_why_we_should_worry_about_right-wing_terror_attacks_like_norway%27s_in_the_us_/

‘Eurabia’ advocates scramble for distance from anti-Muslim murderer, Doug Sanders http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/eurabia-advocates-scramble-for-distance-from-anti-muslim-murderer/article2109447/ 

Fjordman/Jensen “doesn’t want to be associated” with Breivik, Sheila Musaji http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/fjordmanjensen_doesnt_want_to_be_associated_with_breivik 

How a clueless “terrorism expert” set media suspicion on Muslims after Oslo horror, Benjamin Doherty http://electronicintifada.net/blog/benjamin-doherty/how-clueless-terrorism-expert-set-media-suspicion-muslims-after-oslo-horror

Islamophobia Can Be A Useful Term, Sheila Musaji http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamophobia_can_be_a_useful_term/0018676

Internet crusaders target all Muslims, not just extremists, Colm O’Broin http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/internet-crusaders-target-all-muslims-not-just-extremists

Islamophobia Can Be A Useful Term, Sheila Musaji http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamophobia_can_be_a_useful_term

Islamophobia does have consequences, Sheila Musaji http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/encouraging_hatred

A manifesto for a Muslim-free Europe, an Infidel-free Middle East, Imran Khan http://blogs.aljazeera.net/europe/2011/07/24/manifesto-muslim-free-europe-infidel-free-middle-east

The Manifesto: Breivik’s Crusader Fetishism, Richard Bartholomew http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/breiviks-crusader-fetishism/

Media Reacts to News That Norwegian Terror Suspect Isn’t Muslim, Ujala Sehgal http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/07/media-reacts-news-norwegian-terror-suspect-isnt-muslim/40322/

Norway attacks: Utøya gunman boasted of links to UK far rightAnders Brehing Breivik took part in online discussions with members of the EDL and other anti-Islamic groups http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman

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Norway attacks can and must change the discourse on violence and extremism, Shelina Zahra Janmohamed http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/norway_attacks_can_and_must_change_the_discourse_on_violence_and_extremism

Norway Police Warned of Rising Far-Right Extremism, Nicolas Rolander http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903461104576463850667976830.html 

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Spencer and Geller’s “Defense”: Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing, Sheila Musaji http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/sound_and_fury_signifying_nothing 

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The terrorist as public relations expert, Sheila Musaji http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/the_terrorist_as_media

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The Wall Street Journal And Jerusalem Post Publish Editorials Saying Norwegian Terrorist Had A Point, Zaid Jilani http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/25/277863/wsj-jerusalem-post-norway-terrorist-had-a-point/

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Why do they hate us, and who is they?, Logan Penza http://themoderatevoice.com/117344/why-do-they-hate-us-and-who-is-they/